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Posted by offspin79 on June 28 2008, 16:59 PM GMT Since this issue surfaced sometime ago and there was no change in BCCI position (and by design Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka once again likely tow BCCI line), further prodding of this is only ikely to complicate matters for the officials and jeoperdise its many mandates on the promotion of cricket within and beyond the existing membership. Principally ICC and companion websites must be careful in leading discussions in one direction such as issues as controversial as these. As we are bombarded daily by major British and partially by U.S. networks (moral guardians of world order) of the predicament facing citizens of Zimbabwe, lets choose an appropriate channel to address these. The ICC and companion websites should focus on the promotion of cricket. Posted by louisventer on June 28 2008, 16:21 PM GMT what nikhilashri fails to realise is that by restricting the zim participation they dont get to squirrel ICC funds to the corrupt regime. From my point of view the BCCI has one option and one only, a vote not to expel Zim is a vote for BCCI greed. Sporting sanctions hurt us as south african supporters more than any financial sanctions and that was a key reason to bring unity back to the country after the political situation was rectified. The world cups for rugby and cricket showed us that both sides of the fence were driving for the same thing, by not imposing sporting sanctions the ICC denies Zim that hope at reconciliation and keeps financing a corrupt regime....the ICC are part of the zim warlord situation at the moment and they have to distance themselves. If the BCCI prevents this they might as well make a donation to ZANU-PF Posted by peeeeet on June 28 2008, 13:22 PM GMT I am an Australian, and I am really hurt by reading all the anti-Aus stuff that is being said here. If the posters saying this knew the Aus political situation at the moment now - the current gov is a different party to the one which went with war and the new gov is pulling out. On the ZIM issue, it shouldn't really be about the political situation which we all know about. It should be about the quality of international cricket and maintaining standards, and the fact that Zim havent played tests since 2005 shows their standard or lack there of. I noticed a comment about Bang not being good as well but they show signs of improvement - beating Aus in 2005, making super 8 of world cup, everything about Zim cricket is just declining and they should not receive the benefits of the top cricket teams as they show no signs of being one of the top teams. Posted by nikhilashri on June 27 2008, 23:12 PM GMT The article starts with and revolves around the flawed idea of punishing a child for the sins of his father. Mr. Bal argues that Zimbabwe should be debarred for there political situation. However who are they trying to punish? Does Mugabe really care if England doesnt go and play in Zimbabwe? I guess the answer is simple no. Then who is going to suffer? Obviously the cricketers. Its very unfortunate that a country like SA which experinced this injustice first hand, now inflict the same injustice on its neighbour. Even if we talk about the cricketing standards, no one should forget that it was Zimbabwe responsible for India's two world cup exits and nearly changed the histroy of sport in third (1983). This is a visious circle, you dont allow them to play and then you say they are not good enough to play. I think they are much better than Bangladesh and they have indeed produced some of the finest players of our generation. If you have to then equate there cricketing standards to WI. Posted by IndianMigrant on June 27 2008, 21:40 PM GMT English and Australian governments who were morally bankrupt to side with US in Iraqi war has no rights to raise questions about Robert Mugabe Zimbabwe government. At least US gave valid reasons (event though it turned out to be false in the end) before going to war and US soldiers have made most of the sacrifices next to Iraqi civilians. But the English and Australians with their token presence in Iraq have only contributed to the destruction of Iraqi civilian society and left thousands of innocent Iraqi's dead. US is still trying to normalize the situation in Iraq. So English and Australians please spare BCCI and the world with you hypocritical sense of justice and dubious ethics Posted by ashwin_547 on June 27 2008, 17:40 PM GMT Terrible, the breadbasket of Africa is now a waste land. There have even been several incidences of cricketers escaping to South Africa in car boots or having their family farms seized. Nothing now can stop them from destroying everything left. Zimbabwe just need more exposure, South African first class cricket might help them back, but their domestic standards are too low. Things need to be changed if they are to punch above their weight any more. Posted by Jakkals on June 27 2008, 15:32 PM GMT I do not understand this. From 1969 till 1992 SA were banned because of politics, now politics and sport are seem to be two different things according to BCCI. If they had that same idea in 1969 we would have seen the true potencial of a Graeme Pollock and Barry Richards etc. Shame on you India. Posted by FreedomforCitizens on June 27 2008, 11:00 AM GMT I take offense at Sambit Bal's comment that Zimbabwe is in the same sentence as US and its Allies! Does Sambit forget the UN resolutions against Iraq? Posted by Colossus on June 27 2008, 09:50 AM GMT Resurgence doesn't come in without a realization of the true status of the situation. And demoting Zimbabwe from a test nation to a associate nation, will be a measured step towards that. Yes, the cricketers who have their living depending on cricket, may feel robbed. And as associate nation players with a political system as Zimbabwe's, they may struggle to make a living. And that is where BCCI can lend their support, if they truly want to. Infuse those Zimbabweans into their affluent IPL system, and not only help them earn a living, but also make them good enough to help their nation recover their Test status ! BCCI has done its job ( if genuinely its looking to support Zimbabwe cricket) and ICC has done its own, with BCCI in confidence; all done! But its only then, that they mix politics with cricket, and doesn't allow that to happen! Posted by Zordrac on June 27 2008, 08:46 AM GMT I loved Zimbabwe as a cricketing nation. A 2nd side from Africa, or indeed when they came in South Africa was still suspended. They were the little guys who occasionally surprised. They were much like Sri Lanka when they first started, usually below par but occasionally they had upset wins. Heath Streak and Andy Flower were champions. Then there was Neil Johnson who came good in that world cup. They were building the foundation of a truly great team, who could truly challenge on the world stage. And then came the suspension of Andy Flower and Henry Olonga. Fair enough Flower was due to retire, but Olonga was just trying to make a point. The way that they were treated was abysmal. Then alter we hear that Heath Streak's father is kidnapped, and even the black replacement for Andy Flower is being threatened, and it all gets ridiculous. That is what we object to. An all-black Zimbabwe team is fine in my books (although even a Mugabe team isn't all black). The issue is violence
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